Subject: My Bodyopus Experience.week6 (it's long, guys Copyright Lyle McDonald 1996 Date: 1996/06/10
Ok, as promised I want to discuss some of the differences and similarities between Bodyopus (hereafter BO) and the Anabolic Diet (hereafter AD) as I've gotten some questions about them and have read both books (as well as Atkin's "New Diet Revolution" and Jay Robb's "Fat Burning Diet") and feel I can give a decent critique of the two diets. I've also looked up some of the research into ketogenic diets but I don't want to get into that too much here. Read Jeff Krabbe's posts if you want the nuts and bolts of why these diets do what they do. Remember that all opinions are mine and mine alone. And, I don't mean to harsh on anyone with what I write, just trying to give an honest, mostly unbiased review. This week (to cut down on overall post length), I'll only discuss the books in general terms (overall quality, content). Next week, I'll get into differences between the actual diets. That way you guys have to come back and read my wonderful writing. Sort of like the cliffhangers in the old serial TV shows. Overall book quality and cost: ---------------------------- BO: $39.95+6.50 S/H from XIPE press. A 300+ page perfect bound book. 48 chapters but some of them are only 2 pages long. I feel that the 50 pages on diet drugs was mere filler as most of us won't ever use/have access to most of these compounds. No references included for geeks like me who like to look up supporting research. This book actually details 3 different diets (Modern dieting, the Isometric Diet, and Bodyopus). It goes into great detail about food quality with regards to protein, carbs, and fats. Information dense without being overly technical (although those without a science background may have some problems with the chapters on thyroid and women's lower body fat). Still leaves a lot of questions unanswered (either because Dan forgot or simply doesn't have them yet) with regards to supplement doses (vanadyl, chromium, etc.), protein during the recarb (he told me 20g per meal in private email but I think that's overkill), and some other things. All of which are minor nitpicks in the big scheme of things. This book covers almost all of the bases as far as dieting for the non-steriod individual. Definitely better than 99% of the shit diets out there (I giggle every time I see Dr. Katahn's "Tri-Color Diet" book in the stores. Or Susan Powter's "Food".) AD: $49 + 4 S/H from Optimum Training Systems. Spiral bound and comes with a video (poor quality of Pasquale essentially repeating exactly what's in the book. Yawn.) and one site bodyfat calipers (better than nothing and I used them myself but spend the extra $5 and get a pair of Slimguide). Much less detail in some ways than BO (with regards to food quality choices as well as training structure and helpful supplements). But, covers some of the aspects that Dan skips like underlying physiology. Which is interesting but hardly necessary to use the diet by any means. Has lots of references but some are simply inapplicable (like research on the effects of a moderate fat (40% calories) diet on endurance athletes). Better graphic design overall. But, this is damning by faint praise as BO (the book, not the diet) has no graphics to speak of. Both books have things going for them and things going against them. I would have loved to have seen Bodyopus with comprehensive references but the list would most likely be longer than the book itself. Pasquale missed some of the details (like glucose disposal agents) which really help the diet along. A true geek like myself has both. And looks up the references in the library too. I'm not sure which one I would recommend if you only had enough $$$ to buy one or the other. Seeing as BO actually has more information as far as overall dieting, I guess this would be the one I'd recommend. Also, BO has a cooler cover picture. Which is absolutely critical to my buying preferences. Yeah, whatever. Lyle McDonald, CSCS ----------------------------- Someone on m.f.w suggested I try a different format for my body composition measurements to avoid so much confusion as to what the changes have been. So, I've made two charts (one for the repeat Monday measurements and one for the Friday lower down). Let me know if this has too much information or could be better presented. I can only imagine how this will format to m.f.w. Day Date Weight Pec Abs SI Thigh Sum3 BF% FM FFM -------------------------------------------------------------- Mon 5/13 154 7 27 18 8 42 12.2% 18.8 135.2 Mon 5/20 151 6 27 17.5 9 42 12.2% 18.4 132.6 Mon 5/27 154 5 24 18 8.5 37.5 10.4% 16 138 Mon 6/3 149 5 25.5 15.5 8 38.5 10.4% 15.5 133.5 Note: These numbers are starting at week 2 as I was using the single site measure during week 1. Key: BF% = body fat percentage FM = fat mass in lbs FFM = fat free mass (total weight - FM) Not much change this week but that was to be expected. I was not cutting calories or doing much in the way of aerobics. Reasons are given below. My week at a glance: ------------------- Sunday: Recall that I stopped my carb-up short at 12pm Saturday night to minimize any spillover from overeating. Hence, this day was protein and grease again. I did 45' of cardio at a HR of 140 to hasten depletion of liver glycogen and ketosis. Took same supplements as always but NO ECA or Yohimbine. The plan for this week is as follows: 1. Increase calories: at worst, I maintain fat (I'm not sure it's even really conceivable to gain fat on a ketogenic diet as excess calories will just be excreted anyhow) mass. At best, my T3 levels come back up and I can continue dieting down after 1-2 weeks. 2. Increased lifting frequency: After much debate, I decided on the following scheme: Mon: legs, back, bis: high tension workout, followed by 20' cardio Tue: chest, delts, tris: high tension workout followed by 20' cardio Wed,Thu: 30' low intensity cardio? Fri: high tension full body workout Again, the rationale as dicussed last week is to take advantage of any carbing from the weekend on Mon and Tue and then hit the muscles hard again on Friday to take advantage of the anabolic spurt on the weekend during recarb. 3. Decreased cardio volume/intensity: Recall that I was doing 45-60' of moderately intense cardio on Wed and Thu in previous weeks. As too much cardio causes muscle loss and lowering of T3, cutting back may help allow thyroid levels to reset. 4. No thermogenics: Same reason as #3. Thermogenics (clenbuterol and to a lesser degree ECA do a number on the enzyme that converts inactive T4 to active T3) so discontinuation of the stack may help allow upregulation. Monday: Ok, hit my first tension workout of the week. Recall that I've been without carbs for 2 days now. Not surprisingly, this workout felt like a typical Tuesday workout in that strength started well and then dropped off quickly. However, I can't say this with all certainty as other things were changed from last week's Monday workout including: 1. No ECA: for anyone who's gone cold turkey, this makes a huge difference in poundages and reps. 2. Lifting in a different gym: Due to schedule I trained where I work other than at World Gym where I normally workout. I was also forced to train at a different time than normally (mid-day instead of morning). For anyone who doubts the effect these have on workout quality, I suggest you try training in a completely different gym once and watch your poundages fall off. Or, if you always train in the morning, go at night and watch your strength drop to weenie proportions. 3. Tired: I stayed up past my bedtime helping a friend put together a newpaper. The fact that I'm trying to date this girl had nothing to do with it. No, really, I mean it. Neither did the back rub I gave her. What?! You guys doubt me? Diet: I noticed a big difference in appetite not being on the ECA stack. I actually ate like a normal person. Guessing that I put down 2000-2200 calories or so. But, I'm in ketosis as of early evening so I'm not concerned with anything being stored. So far, 48 hours to get into ketosis seems about my record. I'm not sure you could get in there faster without: a. an extensive workout on Monday assuming a normal carb-up. Mine only lasted about 45' which isn't long enough to deplete muscle/liver glycogen and blood glucose. b. insulin: the Bodyopus trick that Dan didn't discuss in the book. It can get you into ketosis faster and carb you up better. Of course, it can kill you in a heartbeat too so don't fuck around with it unless you know what you're doing. Even then I wouldn't fuck around with it. (Note: actually, I'm just stupid enough to try insulin if I could get my hands on some.) As an interesting side-note, another email correspondent (MF) who I have been discussing T3 upregulation with tells me he knows of some trainees who carb with insulin prior to working out and then use insulin right after to get back into ketosis who are getting great results. Scary. Supplements: Again, just normal supplements (multi-vitamin/mineral, anti-oxidants, glucose disposal agents with breakfast) but nothing else. Ok, let's talk about supplements on this diet: Dan suggests creatine and carnitine if you don't eat red meat. The creatine I can understand as numerous studies have found it to have an effect. The carnitine I question seriously. Almost all of the research I've seen on carnitine suggests that it has little or no ergogenic effect as far as fat burning is concerned except *maybe* at prohibitively high doses (like 2-6 grams per day for weeks onend. At about $1 per gram, you can do the math.) FYI, Pasquale says the same thing about carnitine. Thing is, one study I read used glycogen depletion and fat loading to induce higher than normal levels of free fatty acids in the blood and still found that the body still had enough carnitine to burn all the fat present. Anyone tried this stuff with BO/AD? I suppose it's feasible that high intensity cardio with very high ketone levels might deplete carnitine levels (and I have seen studies that low liver carnitine levels can inhibit ketogenesis so it might be useful if you are having trouble getting into ketosis) but most of the research I've seen don't support it's use. Especially not at $1/gram (and, yes, I know you can get it cheaper mail order). Tuesday: Did my push workout today and felt rather weak. No lifts dropped but none went up either. Again, recall that, this week, this is my 3rd day in ketosis and I'm not running on ECA. At least I was back at World Gym today. I actually got a decent pump from this workout which kinds of surprised me. Followed this workout with 20' of cardio at a HR of about 130. Diet: Again, noticed my appetite up quite a bit which is good since I want to increase calories to try to raise T3 levels. In fact, my morning temp was already back up from 96.4 to 97.0 this morning. Still shitty as all hell but it's getting there. Anyone know where I can score some Cytomel? Just joking (don't want the DEA coming to my door). Additionally, evening temp, which has hovered around a low 98 is up to 98.5 which suggests to me that T3 levels are starting to come back up. At least, I hope they are. Under the heading of "don't ask why this occurs to me": As you know, I use these weekly updates to both chronicle my progress (or lack thereof) on Bodyopus as well as offer my thoughts on ways to make it better, more efficient, etc. Here's the thought for the day: We know that, while in ketosis, ketones are excreted through the urine and breath. And, once the ketones are gone, the fat they came from is gone as well. Question: Would drinking tons of water to increase urine volume hasten fat loss or would it just empty the bloodstream of ketones? As the header suggests, don't ask why this occurred to me. Thinking more about this more, I don't think this would work. I would guess that ketone formation is based simply on caloric need. Urination wouldn't increase that. For the record, is this why the epileptic kids on ketogenic diets are water restricted? That is, since the ketones seem to be what keeps them from having seizures, would too much water lower ketone levels too much to do any good? Would this apply to BO dieters since we want ketones in the bloodstream to be anti- catabolic? Will our heroes escape from the clutches of Dr. Freeze? Tune in: Same Bat time, Same Bat channel.... umm, sorry about that, low blood sugar makes me a bit silly sometimes. Another in the don't ask category: For those keeping score, we know that my T3 levels are low from too much dieting, too much cardio, and too much ECA. I've already said that I'm going to increase cals, cut back on cardio, and drop ECA for a week or two to allow levels to reset. But, another option occurs to me. We know that one of the main functions of T3 is regulation of body temperature (i.e. raises it). And we know that sitting in cold water burns calories through what's called cold induced shivering thermogenesis. Question: Could cold exposure (i.e. cold showers and baths) help to upregulate T3 levels? According to the book I mentioned last week ('Fat Management: The Thermogenic Factor' by Mowery), cold exposure causes upregulation of 5'-deiodinase activity which is what converts T4 to T3. Could ice cold showers or baths (brrr) be the solution to my and other dieters thyroid problems? Worth a shot I guess. If nothing else, it will help me deal with the lack of a girlfriend, right? ;) That and the new issue of Muscular Development. <double grin> (I apologize if anyone finds my references to stuff like this irrelevant or stupid but, I'm trying to keep these updates humorous and readable. Trust me, it's better than my usual writing style which is drab and research like. "Dammit! Jim, I'm a physiologist, not a doctor.") Wednesday: Nothing new and out of the ordinary today. My appetite is still up but I don't feel I should restrict calories heavily until T3 comes back on line. I ended up putting in 45' total of walking with my clients so I was a good boy and didn't do any extra cardio work. Out of boredom, I checked for references on T3 downregulation, especially as it relates to impaired 5'-deiodinase (5-D) activity (which converts inactive T4 to T3 in the body). Most of the studies were done on rats but there was some interesting stuff. I found two possible mechanisms. a. In the pineal gland: There is apparently 5-D in this gland. When melatonin levels are low, 5-D activity decreases. Supplementing with melatonin (in rats, recall) activates it again. Question: will this have any effect other places in the body, like the liver? b. In the liver: A deficiency of selenium came up several times as having a severe effect on liver activity of 5-D. Additionally, low blood levels of glutathione (related to selenium levels) cropped up in the research as negatively affecting 5-D. Hypothesis: Dieting plus strenuous exercise lowers selenium stores (for whatever reason. perhaps mediated by free radical generation or something) which lowers 5-D activity. Question: would a simple selenium and/or glutathione supplement be enough to get 5-D activity back on line? Or is there another mechanism at work at work here? Perhaps something worth investigating if my body temp doesn't come back up. This seems an awfully simple explanation for this problem though. I did check on cold immersion and doing it for long periods of time (like 8 hours) does seem to raise T3 levels in animals (usually hamsters for some weird reason). Two problems with this idea: 1. I'm not sitting in ice cold water for 8 hours. 2. No telling if the transient increase in T3 is permanent (I tend to doubt it very seriously). I think I'll check out the selenium angle first. Thursday: Went for a nice easy walk for 45' before breakfast to stretch some of the soreness out of my legs and burn some ketones. This, on top of 10' walking with a client this afternoon, was my sum total of cardio today. Oh, yeah, morning temp is still at 97.0. Which is better but I would still like it higher before I continue dieting down. Notes: Ok, time for some more ranting. From my updates, I've gotten generally positive responses. Either people thanking me for helping them avoid my mistakes or wanting more information. But, I've gotten a couple that really pissed me off. One was from a guy I rather mercilessly flamed here on m.f.w so I guess I started it. We managed to figure out the hang up (basically, some philosophical differences regarding how strictly to follow Bodyopus, etc.) No problem. However, I answered one today that was truly annoying. Basically, this person (who's name and email adress I will not give out) wrote me to criticize my update and Dan's diet, etc asking why I was risking screwing up my body, etc, etc. Basically, he hit me with all the same incoherent gibberish that most mainstream nutritionists give about ketogenic diets (ketosis is dangerous, just eat less to lose weight, blah, blah, blah). Wait. Stop. Ok, originally, I had written a rather scathing criticism of the comments this person made in private email. But, I've decided not to print all of them here. Here were his basic criticisms and the points that I tried to make to him. 1. If you can't lose fat on a high carb diet, it's because you are eating too many calories. No kidding. And, he's right. Even doing about 10 hours per week of various cycling and 1-2 weight sessions per week, I was not losing bodyfat. I told him that a high carb, very low fat diet kept me hungry all the time and I couldn't control my food intake. Would a 60/20/20 approach have worked just as well? Perhaps. But, I tend to extremes. It's either no fat (I was eating less than 10 grams of fat per day at this point in my life) or all fat (Bodyopus). For many people, high carbs just keep them hungry due to severely fluctuating blood sugar and insulin levels. In which case, lowered carbs and higher fat and protein are appropriate. Is the extreme of a ketogenic diet necessary? It is for some. Would a Zone (or Isometric) diet work just as well for me? Perhaps. But, it's actually more difficult for me to do a 30/40/30 diet (or 33/33/33) than either low carb or high carb just because of the logistics involved (balancing carbs, protein, and fat is a big pain in the butt). 2. Competition bodybuilders get shredded all the time with high carbs. Ok, here's the big problem. He is making the incorrect extrapolation (he still didn't get this point after I made it several times) that using what works for an extrememly small percentage of people (what percentage of people do you figure has a realistic chance of stepping on stage for a bodybuilding competition? 2%? 1%? Less?) to the rest of us. I made the point (which he also missed) that perhaps competition bodybuilders have higher androgen levels. Or higher thyroid levels. Or better genetics. Or use appetite supressant drugs. Or take steroids (yes, this occurs even at 'natural' competitions). I tried to get across to him (to no avail) that I could train and eat like Dorian (or how about Chris Faildo for a natural) and still be small and weenie. I could ride the same bike the Lance Armstrong (cyclist) uses and train just like him and still suck. I could take every supplement out there and train like a madman, and I'd still be small. What he doesn't seem to understand is the massive impact that individual genetics have in people's response to things (humorously, he gave me the good old Mentzer argument of "Since we all have the same underlying physiology, we should all respond to the same thing. Which is the basis for medicine. Etc. etc." Then why, KC, do drugs work differently for different people? Why can't we all just eat the same, train the same, and look the same. It's called biochemical individuality. Yes, we all have the same basic underlying physiology but not everyone will respond in an identical fashion to the same things.) I'm not trying to make excuses for why I'm small. Just being realistic. I asked him why some get great responses from steroids and others don't? No response to that one. Again: biochemical individuality. Some people just don't respond well to high carbs in their diet. I think I happen to be one of them. IAE, all of these arguments seemed to go completely over this guy's head. Hey, at least I tried. 3. He implied that I was saying BO was a miracle diet. I never said any such thing. BO works for *me*. Maybe it will work for *you*. Maybe not. If you can get cut on high carbs, more power to you, don't bother trying a different diet. If you can't, try something else. It's the same thing with training or supplements. Some get great results with HIT and overtrain on anything else. Some *seem* to need higher volume to get better results. Most get wonderful results from creatine. I took it and just got sick at my stomach. I suppose this guy would still tell me that, since creatine works for bodybuilders, it should work for me since we all have the same underlying physiology. It's the exact same logic as with the high carb vs. low carb argument. In-di-vid-u-a-lity. That's a big word, isn't it? Can we say it together? 4. Finally, he commented that you just can't possibly function as well on low carbs as with high. I told him that it amused me that HE could tell ME how I felt on this diet (almost as good as when somebody at PR Bar told me my bodyfat over the phone). This point he did get, to his credit. He finally asked me if I felt my performance was as good on BO as with high carbs. I replied that, being a test of one, it's hard to compare. But, except for this week's lame workouts, my strength has been increasing in the gym. My cycling and skating endurance is not affected. And, most of all, I don't get the low energy crashes during the week that I used to get with high carb due to changes in blood sugar. He told me that he feels run down on low carbs. I asked whether he'd ever tried a true ketogenic diet (low carbs, mod protein, AND high fat) for a decent period of time. This (time) is the key. I felt like crap the first couple of weeks. No energy, incoherent (more than usual), the whole 9 yards. I've adapted now and feel fine. Again, this is what works for ME and ME alone. Alright, enough of that. But, do me a favor: If there's anyone else out there who wants to debate the relative merits of a ketogenic diet, please save the standard arguments of "It's not healthy." or "Your body needs carbs to function." as they are not true. Also, if you haven't actually tried a ketogenic diet, please don't pre-suppose to tell me how I'm feeling on one. Does that at least make sense, KC? Friday: Here's the tabulated Friday changes in bodyfat: Day Date Weight Pec Abs SI Thigh Sum3 BF% FM FFM -------------------------------------------------------------- Fri 5/17 145 8 27 18 8 41 12.2% 17.7 129 Fri 5/24 144 5 24 19 8 37 10.4% 15 129 Fri 5/31 146 5 24.5 17 8 37 10.4% 15.1 130.9 Fri 6/7 146 5 25.5 15.5 7.5 38 11.3% 16.5 129.5 Key: BF% = body fat percentage FM = fat mass in lbs FFM = fat free mass (total weight - FM) Notes: Well, it looks like I backslid a bit this week. It's too bad that I didn't count calories. I'd be interested to see how many more calories above maintenance I was eating in comparison to how much fat I appeared to have gained. Also note that part of this could be measurement error. The break between 10.4% and 11.3% bodyfat is at 37 mm of total skinfold. So, if I mismeasured by even 1 mm over, it would overestimate my overall bodyfat. Considering that skinfolds haven't changed much if at all, I have trouble beliving that I gained 1.5 lbs of fat in 5 days with low carbs. But, it does point out that it's time for me to at least start counting calories again if I ever hope to have my abs show. The workout. As described last week, I have opted out of the high rep workout and replaced it with a tension workout in hopes of harnessing the high carb anabolic effect of the weekend. In a fit on insanity, I decided to give a Leistner-like workout a try (HIT to the ultimate degree). Here was the workout (and, please try not to make too much fun of my poundages. I am just a weenie speed-skater at a bodyweight of ~150): Warmup/cardio 20' on bike at 120 HR. Deadlift: 135X8 warmup, 1'rest, 185X10, 1'rest, 185X10, 1'rest 185X10 supersetted with squats: 185X10, 1'rest, 225X8. Pant, pant. Went to incline DB benches (2 sets to failure with 1' rest), cable row (2 sets to failure with 1' rest), lateral raise machine (2 sets to failure), assisted chins (2 sets to failure). The whole thing only took about 30' but I was gasping for air the whole time. Finished with a 15' cooldown on the bike and then started the carb-up. Still using HCA, vanadyl, chromium, and magnesium and eating junk food but I will stop carbing again Saturday night as it seemed to work well last week. Saturday: I tell you what, if Dan is right and soreness is a good indicator of growth stimulation then I should be massive by Monday. Friday's little experiment torched everything. Even my arms are worked and I didn't do any direct exercises for them. Low back, quads, hams, even traps are just aching today. I am so glad I just get to sit at home, sleep and eat junk food. Even doing cardio would flat out nearly kill me. The HCA is having the same effects as last weekend as far as blunting hunger but I'm still eating until bedtime tonight (when you only get carbs for 30 hours a week, you have to make the most of them). It's all been pretty much processed crap but I've made sure to get some protein in there as well. Sunday: Ugh. I definitely overate yesterday. I also went and saw 'The Phantom'. It sucked big time. Don't waste your money if you are thinking about seeing it. In any case, a quick and dirty skinfold measure show no change so I don't feel I had any spillover from my shortened carb-up. Also, morning body temp showed as 97.9 (yes!). We'll have to see if this is transitory or not. One email correspondent pointed out that a single 200 gram serving of carbs is enough to upregulate T3 levels but I don't know for how long. This makes me wonder if Pasquale's idea of the mid-week carb-up isn't a bad idea. Basically, Wednesday morning, you can take up to 1000 calories of simple carbs to get an insulin pulse, etc. I'd be somewhat worried about getting kicked out of ketosis but perhaps all that lovely glucose would just go into the cells. If you trained right afterwards, you might bump back into ketosis as well. I did a light 30' of cardio on the bike to start burning some blood glucose and that ends the week. A correction: In another thread, I answered a question about the old Atkins diet and Bodyopus/Anabolic diet incorrectly (thanks to JR who set me straight in email). The *old* Atkins diet was built around sustained deep ketosis by keeping carbs to a bare minimum at all times. Dr. Atkins has since modified his diet so that after a couple of weeks when ketosis has been established, carbs are slowly added back in until only mild ketosis is indicated by the Ketostix. However, the standard Atkins diet, new or old, still does not have the weekly carb-up like Bodyopus/AD. Also, keep in mind that not everyone will respond to that frequent of a carb-up. The same person who pointed out my errors regarding the Atkins diet is one of them. He found that carbing each weekend led him to simply lose and then regain the same bodyfat. He is the person I mentioned last week who alternates longer periods of low carbs (4-6 weeks) with short periods of carb (4-7) days. I seem to recall him saying he'd lost about 70 lbs of fat with this approach which is pretty damn amazing. Sort of puts a hole in the old one-size fits all idea of nutrition and dieting. Hear that KC? Addition: JR also gave me the name and number of a place in Florida (which I mentioned in yet another m.f.w thread but I had lost the phone number) which specializes in food for Atkins/low carb dieters. It is called: The Sugar Free Marketplace and the phone# is: 800-726-6191 It's in Tamarac, FL JR tells me that it is somewhat expensive as they have to ship overnight so the food doesn't spoil but for those of you getting bored with tuna in mayo and ground beef with mustard every meal, this might be an option. Also, I'm trying to get my gourmand (BK) to write a low carb cookbook. He is a whiz in the kitchen and has told me about Designer Pancakes and other delicacies. *If you're wondering why I don't typically use names when I refer to people in these updates, it's simply for reasons of confidentiality. Without asking someone if it's ok to use their name, I don't feel that I should be posting it for the world to see. Same reason I wouldn't give out a client's name and specifics to anyone. It's just not right without their explicit permission.* Monday: The body composition shows: Day Date Weight Pec Abs SI Thigh Sum3 BF% FM FFM -------------------------------------------------------------- Mon 6/3 149 5 25.5 15.5 8 38.5 10.4% 15.5 133.5 Mon 6/10 155 5 26 16 8 39 11.3% 17.5? 137.5 I appear to be backsliding. Considering that I haven't been dieting and eating like shit on the weekends, I'm not terrible surprised. This week, I'm going back to counting calories (starting at 2000 per day) and will be more attentive to my carb-ups and everything else. Next week I hope to start dieting for real again (meaning cutting calories). Maybe I'll just forge ahead and start again this week (I'm tired of waiting for those abs to arrive). Next week: The differences and similarities between Bodyopus and the Anabolic Diet part 2: the diets. Happy Bodyopusizing, Lyle McDonald